ED 664 Learning Project Log
Monday, December 03, 2001
It's been a while since I entered data into the log. I think I'm trying to do to much. Anyway, quick summary of the past month or so in travelogue format:
I discussed the project with Glenn, who is interested in the end result as he has his students do some of their writing in Word. However, he has to go into each directory and open their document to read it and comment on it. If it could be changed so he could do it online, it would life easier.
So, what does it all mean? I've focused mostly on the technical aspects of the project, but I'm seeing a benefit just from what I've done with the students so far. They are writing information to me that (I think) would be hard to get from them in person. For example, they are happy to tell me how their partners are working, such as when we did the partner quiz.
I'm also learning more about how I learn software. Mostly, I get a few books, grab the software, and dink around. The problem I've run into is that the scope is so large that it's a very inefficient way. I find out what the software can do by looking at other software. (I have learned a tremendous amount about how to create ODBE connections, which is something I was unable to do before I started this, and I can do it using DSN-less, system DSN, or global.asa application.) So, I've asked around at school and nobody really knows Access and nobody uses ASP pages. Our one person who did program in Access is gone to Seattle. Oh, well. I may have to go through the Northwind Tutorial to get started.
I would love to be able to discuss some of these issues with people, but electronically is not very good because it's not possible to point at the screen and show working examples. (I'm beginning to find chat annoying because it can take so long to communicate. The best part is the record that is there.)
Sunday, October 14, 2001
Mercedes sent feedback on my learning blueprint. The basic suggestions for modification and enhancement to the learning blueprint are:
It also appeared that Mercedes did not fully understand my blueprint as her words implied that I was merely creating a community for others to learn. That was definitely not my intention but, in looking back over my blueprint, I think I see how she got that idea. I'll revise and republish after KEEP.
Also, in looking at possibilities, I think that I will contact Scott with Genwwwy and get his feedback. Heck, if I could get a trial account, I think it would help a lot with this and my ARP. I will also do a trial Manila site after Glenn and I have talked some more.
I did find an interesting URL on using Electronic Mail Discussion Groups. Although similar to what we are doing in Pepperdine, I will see if that is a viable first pass for the kids to start discussing among themselves.
Sunday, October 07, 2001
I posted a message to ISED-L about Instant messaging. The one I sent on October 6 was:
I have to admit to being somewhat confused here. I have been following this thread with interest because 1)I've recently become a heavy user of IM and MOOs as a result of a Masters program I'm in 2)I'm working with a teacher in California and one of the ways we are getting our classes to communicate is through IM, 3)at our middle school we recently decided to put AIM and Messenger clients on all student machines.
I received two private replies thanking me for posting. The replies to list ran the gaumat from we just needed to set rules with consequences to we have to prepare students for their future, not our past. The most poignant one discussed the need to guide students, and closed with "We are preparing our students for their world, the emerging world, not our world, the world of the past." (D. Withrow)
I replied to all of these on October 7 with:
Thanks for the many replies to my question about IM. I can appreciate the difficulty of the issue, especially in boarding schools, where the teachers are acting in loco parentis.
I will be interested in the replies. I can see that I will find some people of like mind in the groups.
Friday, October 05, 2001
Mercedes got back on the newsgroup with some suggestions. First, she wanted me to put down what online community I would join. That didn't thrill me very much because I haven't really found a good community externally. I've been through so many list servers over the years that I'm burned out on most of them. But, ISED-L and Wizards-L are pretty good, so I'll use those. She did suggest looking at discourse experts or similar, which seems to be an excellent idea so I'm looking. I did have a thought as I'm filling this out--maybe bloggers in general can give me some idea of ways to approach my project.
I finished the comments for the students using the Access database that they filled out on the web. I was amazed at how slick it was. It was so much better than using a Word document as a data source, and when I started the merge, I saw that I could actually use a DSN or a SQL server as my source. Cool! I can see some real possibilities, especially if I can get it to the point where they can edit their own posts. It also completed my September goals for my learning blueprint
It's time to look at the GenY stuff again. (Hey, I think I just figured out who my expert will be! I know I didn't go to NCCE for nothing last march. I'll contact the fellow.)
Also, what Amy and I are doing will count for some of this research as I test out various methods. I can even see a possiblity for them to upload their AIM logs, then be able to view them online. It would become part of the public record of the project. I'm a big fan of having the records of a group effort public.
Oh, ISED-L just had a debate about instant messaging (IM) services. It seems many of the members see IM as a "problem" because kids use it when they should be studying or some such. I intend to write and ask for some clarification.
Tuesday, October 02, 2001
I've submitted my learning blueprint. It's doable. I've already set up a database to collect information from students and write replies, but it still requires merging in Word. I'm going to work on getting it so they can see and view the conversations. However, I have to be very careful of security and privacy issues.